Showing posts with label Terrorist. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Terrorist. Show all posts

Friday, June 01, 2012

Lack of doctrine, secrecy and the "kill list"

For a rarity the NY Times actually has a piece that will stimulate some discussion and it involves the "kill list" of President Obama.  This is the list of overseas terrorists that deserve to get attacked by our UCAVs (or drones in less precise terminology) and to get sudden death out of the skies.  This list was criticized by the Left during the term of President Bush (43) and then dropped off of the grievance list for the Left with the election of Obama.  Thus it is indicative of being a purely political grievance based who is in office and what their party affiliation is.

The way that President Obama makes this "kill list" up is that he is presented with baseball card sized pictures of individuals and their terror resume on the back and he gives a yea or nay on each one.  This is done in secret, so the actual methodology may vary, but that is the gist of it.  There is discussion about how much power a President has as Executive and what Constitutional protections one gets as a citizen working with terrorists while overseas.  Will Cain, talking on Real News from The Blaze (on GBTV) worried about the powers of a President in a war on terror that has no definitive end point to it (aka 'perpetual war' is the idea).

What has been missed is not is this doctrine effective (or short term effective but long term counter-productive as Buck Sexton puts it), which is to say is the 'targeted killing' doing 'the job', but is that a proper doctrine or just a tactic in this war?  Again as the Left loves to point out 'terrorism is just a tactic and you can't wage war on a tactic'.  That is, however, incorrect as terrorism is a methodology in search of founding principle and it is different than war fought with some terror techniques used by accountable actors: terrorists who fight under no flag are not accountable.  Will Cain has problems with al Qaeda in Yemen morphing into some anti-regime force that even has ideas of putting together some sort of government, and is it right to go after them in this process?

Thus we have a doctrine that may be a tactic, a tactic which is a methodology and soldiers who aren't.

This is what you get after a century of twisting words and concepts around to fit political expediency: duckspeak.

From this you get the idea that both the Left and the Right have not one bit of a clue as to what they are talking about.

I cannot set matters straight on a large scale but can discuss what the actual principles are behind all of this (not the political twisting which is pure Progressivism/Liberalism/Socialism/Communism at work, and plain to see) but these matters of soldiers, war, methodology and tactics.  Those are dead simple to figure out, if you bother to study warfare.  What I will lay out is just practice of what I've written about before and following the path of what Nations are and what war is, and how it is waged, one can also discern powers granted to Nations via their citizens to conduct Public War both against Public and Private enemies of the Nation.

Lets start with the enemies since they are the simplest part to tease out.  Public Enemies to a Nation are other Nations and those working for them with the assent of that Nation.  They aren't gangsters roaming around with Tommyguns, by and large, although if they are funded by another Nation to do so, then they are Public Enemies.  Criminals are an enemy to the private peace by disrespecting internal law and may be a threat to the public writ small, not the Nation writ large, and are thusly civil criminals.  A Public Enemy is a Nation that is waging war against our Nation and a Private Enemy is a citizen or group of citizens who act on their own accord against one Nation which is a threat to all Nations by trying to overturn the order of Nations.  Public Enemies you can make a peace treaty with and expect to have that respected.  Private Enemies you can deprive of property and their lives, no peace can be made with them as they respect no international law amongst Nations nor do they abide by the most primal of civilized behavior to set aside our ability to make Private War to have society and a Nation.

Pirates, terrorists, brigands and those who just seize power and consider themselves accountable to no one and to be a law unto themselves, those are Private Enemies and they make Private War.  What they cause is terror, and they are terrorists, and that is a part of what they are, not just what they do: it isn't a tactic but is a characteristic trait of waging Private War that is unaccountable.  These ones are not soldiers as soldiers are part of an accountable military that has a structure, that has published codes and laws they adhere to and can be punished under, they wear uniforms, they do not wantonly attack civilians and other non-combatants and they adhere to standards set by a government of some sort.

The preceding paragraph answers the question of those who espouse wanting to overthrow a Nation: they can say as they wish, but do they actually put forth the accountability system by uniform, published codes and laws, people who publicly run them to be held accountable... that sort of thing makes them soldiers to a government that is trying to gain power by force of arms in a civil war.  They must do all of those things to get that status.  Even further their nascent government must be recognized as legitimate somewhere not just inside their country but by another Nation: they are seen as a legitimate brother Nation by some existing and established Nation.  Without these things you can talk about overthrowing regimes as much as you like, but you aren't a soldier, just one causing terror on their own with no accountability, no cause and nothing you will adhere to so as to justify your activities.

As a recent example, the rebels in Libya at least managed to hint at putting some sort of governing board together along with some written rules, and even tried to form up into semi-discernable ranks.  They actually failed miserably at doing any of these things, but it was enough to garner support from other Nations (mostly in Europe) who were willing to back their cause (which they couldn't figure out beyond 'kill Gaddaffy').  In a place like Syria, say, the population that has been going through an uprising really hasn't gotten its act together, mostly because they have been killed by the regime, threatened by both al Qaeda and Hezbollah, and generally are coming to realize that this major struggle for power between these terror organizations is just getting a lot of people killed.  If you want to go after Asad for his murderous directions, then do not miss the other actors also doing a bit of murdering of civilians on their own in the coercive direction.  As one local in Homs said to the leaving Blue Helmets: while you are here no one is fighting.  Getting Asad is not really an end goal if you want to stop the fighting, as the terror organizations will then be left to do as they will in the power vacuum.  With no one to support there, you will get chaos and a possibly fracturing Nation State along ethnic and religious lines (which could become a reality if the Kurds decide to secede and join their cousins in Iraq and petition for that).  If you want to save the civil population in that scenario, then you are chasing a fairy tale unless you are looking at a major declaration of war against Syria for... no real reason at all as it is only a murderous regime without much in the way of natural resources beyond those phosphate mines that provide it with the basis for chem/bio/nuclear devices.

OK, maybe that is a good reason.  But someone at the National level must make it, tell why it is important and then be willing to send a few tens of thousands of troops in.  Russia already has a few thousand boots on the ground and they are doing doodly there.  Guess they go into the 'well armed non-combatant category': cowards with guns.  Lots of threats, no action.  Loverly.

Now to get back on course, it would seem, on its face, that President Obama is acting in a kinda-sorta terrorist way with those "kill list" things he plays solitaire with.  Should Deuce of Clubs Ahmed 'The Weasel' Mohammed be put on it?  *flip* Oooooo... Ace of Spades 'Killer' Karzawi shows up, so 'The Weasel' gets saved by bigger fish!  Perhaps it is done in a game of poker with each chip representing a UCAV and the ten spots being Hellfires.  I'm sure they have some logical way to do this involving a high degree of chance and waffling.  Be that as it may, the President is the head of a Nation and, thusly, accountable internally and externally to other Nations for his actions.  The people he is going after are terrorists making Private War (not that Public sort) and fall within the Executive power to defend the Nation (all enemies foreign an domestic).  Should American Citizens helping terrorists be put on cards to play with?  Maybe the next round will be Pinochle....

What the card game represents is not doctrine, but methodology and piss poor methodology at that.  A doctrine is a stated and set way of doing things to reach an objective, and drone strikes are just a means to that end, not an end in and of itself.  Apparently we have had a couple of Presidents treating it as an end in itself that churns out dead terrorists.  That isn't good because you have no idea what it takes to make the card list.  And because no doctrine has been set by the President, the decision falls into his lap.  He shouldn't have to figure it out on a case by case basis, just have the one or two iffy decisions cross his desk.  In other words: doctrine is the means to delegate authority and set up the goals and objectives and the objective qualifications for making the "kill list".  Without a set criteria you are just playing cards.

This card playing isn't disturbing because it is done in secret, per se, but that it has to be done at all by the President.  If there was a set doctrine with criteria that gets you on the list, then that would be PUBLIC and you wouldn't need the secret card game.  Period.

That is what a President is supposed to do.

Are there objective things that can be cited that can get you on the "kill list"?

There sure are!

The State Dept. has a list of known terrorists.  Let them know they are all on the list and can be vaporized without notice any time, any where, by anyone the United States authorizes to do so.  That doesn't matter if you are eating humus at your local falafel shop, spelunking in outer Uzbekistan, doing the disco in on vacay in Juarez.  You are a Private Enemy of the United States, you have caused us harm to get on that list and if we can get you we will.  Even better as you have caused monetary harm, we will seize your property as it is forfeit to the damages you have caused and since you aren't going to pay up, your stuff will be taken to help defray the cost of damages you have inflicted upon the Nation.  That is called 'taking' and Congress can authorize that to civilians to do for it, or the President can have soldiers seize it from those we are at Private War with.

Who are those individuals?

They are on the Terror Watch List.

You make the list, your stuff can start vanishing around you.  Hope you didn't like that BMW too much... its been airlifted to a US run chop-shop in LA.  Or Bengal, or wherever we want to run it.  Or it was sold at auction to the highest bidder in Moscow.  Good luck getting it back from the Red Mafia, you know?  Or do you want to be in debt to them?  Sucks being a terrorist, huh?  You could always turn yourself in, you know?

That last part is important as it helps to define just what other sort of people get to make that list.  Anyone who makes Private War on the United States, citizen or non-citizen.  You are no longer abiding by the Law of Nations, you are no longer considering yourself to be under any law, you are waging war on your lonesome and you only get Constitutional protection when you turn yourself in to the proper authorities.

There, that is two ways to do things and get the President less involved and the people who are much (much, much, much) better at making decisions into the loop.  These are called 'subordinates'.  You delegate duty to them.  You give them well defined and set orders and they snap to attention and carry them out... sort of like what Valerie Jarrett expects of the Obamas.

To make it perfectly clear: it doesn't matter where you come from, the moment you decide to wage war on your lonesome against the Nation, you have declared yourself to be its enemy.  Want your name cleared?  Turn yourself in.  Mind you where you end up next is under a court martial, not a civil trial, so the military can determine if you are a legal or illegal combatant or a civilian (that is the grand Choice #3 that they get in case you aren't actually a bomb throwing nut, and by deciding that your chance of a civil trial is essentially nil).  Too bad that President Obama was so hot on closing Gitmo that he forgot (or never learned) that military law is its own beast and quite something different from civil law.  Sucks when you are a Progressive/Socialist/New Party/Democrat who can't be bothered to learn the Constitution or history, isn't it?

What is even better about such things defining a "kill list"?  You can put those who give material aid to terrorists on it, as well.  Or at least their material aid and point out that if good old Ahmed 'The Weasel' is having roast goat and rice over at your house, you can be summarily vaporized with him.  Oh, if he is going for a spin in Rolls Royce, it could also disappear into some lovely auction house in Singapore, too.  Sucks that.  Maybe you can authorize someone to get that sweet Beemer in Moscow for you, huh?

Such a list is self-delimiting: it has a limiting principle to it and requires next to no Presidential overhead beyond thinking up the criteria for the "kill list".  Even that can be delegated to someone who knows what the hell they are doing... I would NOT suggest Eric Holder, as he is clueless and playing far too Fast & Loose with Fast & Furious.  Get someone who actually knows the Constitution and a bit of military history, who isn't politicized to hell and gone, you know like the JCS, to do that thinking up for you.  Sign off on it.  Then you get an extra round of golf in every few weeks!  What a sweet deal!  You would get Transparency and the appearance of semi-competence or at least the ability to sign your name on a couple of things here and there and far less overhead to boot.  Boy, wouldn't it be grand to have a semi-competent President?  I'm not holding my breath for one, btw.

Setting doctrine is public.

The decisions get delegated to competent subordinates.

They do their duty knowing they have a good and objective "kill list" and are allowed to go after targets of opportunity.

The troops can do a bit of taking, get it signed off and get a few sweet cars to drive around and maybe a villa or two to sell off.  Along with those crates of AKs and RPG rounds.  The $300 Nikes are just gravy.

See, all those dusty tomes and tracts I've gone on about, de Vattel, Grotius, Pufendorf, those guys we can't bother to read any more, they actually told you what to do, why to do it, when to do it and how to do it, and left up methodology to operational concerns as they would vary over time.  What you do to get those put against you, that is invariant as it is all about human nature.  That hasn't changed any from the beginning of time.  Remembering that it hasn't... that's the hard part.

Tuesday, March 29, 2011

A rule of thumb that is wrong

You know the old saying from the Middle East:

'The enemy of my enemy is my friend'.

 

It is pretty straightforward that the people vexing your enemy are helping you, right?  Really you need to support that, don't you?

Unfortunately they aren't 'on your side' as they are going after their own cause and agenda and not yours, so while the vexation may be fun to watch, these doing the vexing are in no way, shape or form a 'friend' to you.

 

Now logically stated is the following:

The enemy of my enemy is my enemy's enemy.

This one is not only correct but has a corollary to it on what the strategy is for your enemy and his enemy:

Let's you and him fight.

This is the happy strategy of minor nations throughout history that have two major nations lusting after wealth, territory, and other things tangible or intangible in the minor nation.  This was done by Vienna during the two Ottoman invasions that threatened the city.  Since the local military was dwarfed by the incoming Ottoman armies, the plea to get a larger, regional power to defend Vienna went out.  Poland was a relatively large power for that era, as the area we call Germany was still a lot of squabbling Principalities, and while the Poles may not have had any great affection for the Viennese, they knew that if the Ottomans got Vienna they would be able to stage attacks to devour the Germanic Principalities and actually threaten Poland.

Poland changed that around in the 1920's and got defensive alliances with France and the UK against Germany, so that if Poland was invaded then France and the UK would have to bail her out.  Germany used a hoax to make it look like Poland had attacked Germany, but no one as fooled by that and the invasion of Poland started the official start of WWII, since fighting between Japan and China had been ongoing for years, by then, and Japan as an ally of Germany the attack got a globe spanning war.  This is the diplomatic variation of 'Let's you and him fight' as the Polish army and defenses were sub-par to say the least so that horse mounted cavalry had to face off against tanks.

The US used a version of this in the Iran/Iraq war of the early 1980's, by supplying both sides of the fight with arms: Iraq openly, although not with a lot of material, and Iran clandestinely in the Iran/Contra deal which saw a limited amount of very effective weapons against tanks get sent to Iran which had very little in its arsenal to compare to them.  Henry Kissinger summed it up as a war in which we wished both sides would lose.  That is one of the most quintessential variants of 'Let's you and him fight' that has been seen in the modern era.

So, if applied to a present-day case, like Libya, what would the response of the US be to rebels going against He Who's Name Can't Be Spelled Correctly?

The first few days of dithering is indicative of having no policy for such events when our enemies are attacked by their enemies.  The old Bush Doctrine was that we were the supporters of those seeking 'democracy' in the Middle East, but that was not immediately deployed.  Instead the idea of wanting 'regime change' in Libya was used when it looked like the rebels were going to win the thing.  The President said that He Who's Name Can't Be Spelled Correctly must go.

Ok, good enough on the old sorts of concepts: we didn't like the guy and would like to see him gone.

Then the Carter Doctrine of 'dithering' was deployed.

He Who's Name Can't Be Spelled Correctly rallied his supporters, paid off lots of mercenaries and thugs to fight for him, started bombing anyone in rebel held cities and generally was acting the part of a brutal dictator... because he IS a brutal dictator.

At that point the US has a wide array of options.

- We can say that the leader of Libya had ordered attacks under no auspices of normal Nation State war against US military personnel in Germany (plus German civilians) and had taken down a US commercial aircraft over Lockerbie, Scotland which was an act of Piracy, as Congress has extended the coverage of the Laws of the Sea to US commercial air carriers.  We could point out that US policy has not embraced Libya's leader, that we have not forgiven him and that he was no longer seen as a valid leader of any Nation but a Pirate with a Piratical State under his control and that we considered him and any cronies still with him and supporting him to be Pirates.  That there was no government of Libya that we recognized and would welcome people in Libya to form an interim government that we could help.

- We could use our clandestine offices to try and get a hit squad into Libya as we no longer saw the Unspellable One's rule as legitimate and that he was a threat to us and had attacked us in the past.  He wanted personal war, and we are obliging.

- We could seek the help of regime personnel who had fled after the rebels started their campaign, put a 'government in exile' together with a very sketchy constitution or other ruling document, hire some mercenaries to help them get those who wanted to fight in shape, and landed a government with tiny force to broker with the rebels to bring them into an official government fold.

These are effective ways to deal with such threats from official delegitimization of the current regime to a bit of clandestine work to get rid of the lynch pin of the regime, its leader, all the way to doing the old fashioned 'right thing' and getting a real government of ex-government officials together, giving them some backing and getting them on the ground so that there would be an official group to then plea for military and commercial aid.

See how that works?

What did we do?

We froze the leader's bank accounts.  About $30 billion in cash in the US.

We looked for a 'blockade'.  How that would work with wanting to supply rebels and such makes your guess as good as mine.  Blockades have timetables of years to decades, not hours to months, to have an effect, by the way.

We thought about a No Fly Zone, passed on that until the French and UK got together on it to 'protect the rebels' and also to stop any damage to the oilfields in Libya.  If you did the first you could get some help on the second, so we decided to join up!  Then we would lead!  Then we wouldn't lead!  It was multinational!  We were going to do it all!  We were going to hand it all off to some political talking group!  Then we would hand it off to NATO!  We were only taking out regime air assets, save for the tanks and such we started to go after as a 'coalition'.

This is not a 'doctrine': it is incoherent.

The address the President gave last night is not a doctrine, either, it is a mixture of statements and feel good phrases that are meant to be applied everywhere, but only really apply to Libya, unless they don't apply at all.  It isn't being applied to the similar circumstances in: Ivory Coast, Somalia, Yemen, Syria, Bahrain, Jordan, and even the uprisings in China, come to that.

In theory all we want is the Unspellable One out of power, perhaps with a nice permanent vacation in Venezuela, Land of the Tyrants.

With announcements that al Qaeda is part and parcel of the rebels, with a leader who actually fought against the US in Afghanistan, we now know that we have two enemies fighting each other in Libya.  Something we should have gotten word about from our ever less-than-capable INTEL Community, say, about 3-5 days into things, not 3-4 weeks later and only then by the actual leader's own transmissions.

What was the right strategy that anyone, with an ounce of sense in their heads, could see when our enemy has an unknown enemy that really isn't seeking big favors and promises us NOTHING if we help?

Do we even have a dog in that fight?  Mind you that is way, way, way before the revel leader announced he was trained in Libya to fight for al Qaeda against the US and Coalition Forces in both Afghanistan and Iraq.  Just taken on purely face value, with the knowns of the time, do we really want to support the enemy of our enemy if they have given no indication of how they feel towards us?  It is possible to get worse than the Unspellable One, you know?  The current regime in Iran points to that.  As did Saddam Hussein.  And the Magical Kingdom of Mr. Kim in NoKo.  The Congo.  Somalia. Parts of Detroit and Chicago.

When your enemy has an enemy, and he has not said anything about being friendly to you, then he is just your enemy's enemy.

They really should fight it out amongst themselves.

That is not 'isolationism' but pure, unadulterated common sense.

Let's you and him fight.  We will figure out what to do once you two have gotten things settled. 

We might even send arms to both sides if we find them both hostile to us... stranger things are happening, you know?

Saturday, May 12, 2007

The Modern Jacksonian - Chapter 6 - The Limits of Our Creation

Mankind and humanity are imperfect and those things we create for governance are likewise imperfect. By not being omniscient, all powerful and eternal, mankind creates things that are a bit longer lasting than individuals but as inherently flawed as those individuals who make them. Thus there are boundaries to these things in space and time that are definable as beginnings and limits of exercise while existing. One has liberty and freedom inside this Nation State known as the United States of America, but even here those have limits that we place upon such things. By common agreement we create laws that can satisfy most and let a daily life be led unhindered by government and oversight. As Free Individuals that is a right we have made within this thing known as the United States of America. Those rights have limits of accountability between and amongst us inside the Nation and the Nation, itself, has accountability to similar agreements known as Treaties between Nation States. We further put limits of accountability due to the lifespan of our being and our creations: in the first case the physical accountable end-points of our life as understood in common and that of companies or corporations or other non-physical entities made to sustain ideas and outlook that we, as individuals, create.

As we have failed from the Founding of this Nation to achieve perfection, so we are enjoined to seek the 'more perfect Union' amongst ourselves and understand that differences need to be worked out amongst individuals until common understanding is achieved. This requires that as those self same individuals we will have different outlook on morals and ethics from others, and that those outlooks may not be compatible with the wider society. This means that there is freedom to those differences and application and that individuals are held to the more common standard while being able to persuade others for these differences. This is a process we call 'Civilization'. This process of 'Civilization' breaks down when perfect limits are espoused to reach perfect goals and then impose those upon imperfect People. As the famous quip goes: 'We have the freedom to pursue happiness, but heaven help you if you *catch it*.'

Previous writings of mine have looked at these limits and I will attempt to summarize those viewpoints with some of the very basic limits that life and the unknown world impose upon us and some ways to go forward so as to strive to be 'more perfect' and persuade others in the Union that coming to terms and being 'more perfect' in that Union is better than where we are now. This requires that the dichotomy of Hegelian viewpoint be recognized as limited in scope and outlook and that there are far more than 'two sides' to any argument. By settling into Marxist based logic and reasoning the limits of it have been taken up by those who take sides in said arguments. This outlook adheres to no side, but towards some form of reasonable outlook that has basis in our common understanding of ourselves, our creations, and our limits. Such outlooks can fail, but then the process is to step up and find something 'more perfect' or to step back and say 'what the hell is wrong with this?'

Thus, to anger the most possible at one time that is what I will set out to do and describe the limits of life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness and the cost in liberty, life and happiness if we seek the perfect *now*. I do not eschew perfect goals, but I do eschew reaching them in the near future without building up the society and agreement necessary to sustain them. That is the work we set ourselves as Citizens and those who fall under We the People. This is done in conjunction with the actual responsibilities that have been set out to us as Individuals.

The thing people have been looking for to try and find what the actual responsibilities of individuals *are* in this Nation State called the United States of America is the very first sentence of that untitled document called the Constitution. That is one set of picky folks that have to actually name what a document is in the opening sentence and *not* put a title on the damned thing! And for good reason, as it is ONLY the Constitution once We the People set out what we are going to do. That Preamble to the Constitution describes not what we hand to government to do, but what We the People do in forming government. We take responsibility to have government do these following things and then put limits on that government even before it is constituted so that We have absolute responsibility for its actions. That is what it means to be Free in this Nation State that is called the United States of America. In decrying poor governing and lack of good governance by the people chosen, it is also recognized that it is We the People who have chosen poorly in finding these representatives for us in government. Yes, the majority of people who go into a voting booth make bad decisions! Pretty hard to quibble with that as Congress, in particular, has been derided as: lackluster, lazy, obstinate, moronic, corrupt and defeatist. And that doesn't even get us to 1876! Really, more humorists and editorial cartoons of that first century need to be reprinted and understood: the inability of Individuals to choose good representatives is manifest. The ultimate responsibility for that entire lineage of poor choices, poor decision making, poor outlook, and poor law making rests wholly and completely upon those mentioned in the first sentence of the Constitution. The individual who stares back at you every morning in mirror reflection: you.

With that as a given and that our ability as a People to pick good government is piss poor, we must rely upon the actual structure of the Constitution to uphold our rights and liberties, even when imbeciles are put in charge of law making, law enactment, law enforcement and law adjudication. Then you get a jury of your peers who are *just* as imbecilic as each of *us* are for choosing such poor Individuals for government. What We the People do, however, is place our reliance on this system known as 'Due Process of Law'. That is the actual set of evidence gathered, sorting of facts and fiction and then presuming innocence and having to prove guilt before coming to some Just conclusion. Through all of that innocents still get put on death row or given otherwise lengthy sentences for circumstantial evidence. That is a direct and harsh reflection of *ourselves* mirrored in society: this is a system that needs to be 'more perfect' but is imperfectable at its origin because We the People made it.

Imagine a Nation Founded on red tape!

That is the United States of America.

This process actually does come to more or less Just ends as witness the low number of innocents who are proven out to *be* innocent after conviction. As our means to improve how we analyze evidence increases, the ability to re-examine cases and open up doubt increase, but so does our ability to utilize such tools and methods to remove doubt likewise open up. Just ends, then, become 'more perfect' over time but are, still, inherently imperfectable due to our limitations as Individuals being merely human and mortal. Flip that lens around to the other end of things and we get this lovely debate, or is it stalemate, of opinions on this thing known as 'abortion'. On the one side we get the 'pro-choice' freedom loving folks who point out that Individuals already born have their full Constitutional rights and the other 'pro-life' side pointing out that it looks pretty damned human and is human. Two glaciers meeting have never exerted so much pressure against each other and gotten to so little end than this 'debate' between positions in this lovely little fiasco. At this point it looks like the 'two sides' now expend money on just the debate continuing than in actually doing this thing known as examining the issue and reconciling things so that something a bit better comes from it. Can such a solution be found that lets both sides 'win' but still gets society some 'domestic Tranquility'? Well, not if you only listen and don't think a bit.

In the wilderness if you stop to 'think your way out of the wilderness' you end up staying in one place, doing nothing, while the daylight flees and things get chilly and you get cold and starve even faster. That is exactly where this bi-polar abortion disorder is in the body politic: wanting a 'perfect solution'. So sorry, this is the land of 'Due Process', imperfect law and We the People held accountable to things. You can't actually reach perfection and arguing about reaching either perfection ends up with much heat and little light happening and you sitting right there in the wilderness cold, chilly and darkness descending upon you. That said a less-than perfect, less-than pleasing and yet fully upholdable 'Due Process' direction can be found that pleases no one, exactly, but might get some of this 'domestic Tranquility' back while we seek 'a more perfect Union'. Seems the two sides forgot those things some time ago...

In looking at Freedoms, Rights and the People I started looking at the actual framework of the issues involved and then a whole lot more in When do your rights start? Now in this I do *not* try to figure out when someone is or is not a human but *when* there is a passing point *into* Citizenship. Now why did I do that? Because it is imperfect, of course! Far, far less than ideal but... it does head towards the common ideal of Citizenship and upholding all rights and all responsibilities. Citizenship is a damned important thing in this Nation and the Supreme Court has created a two-tier system of 'Due Process' that actually violates the outlook of the Constitution for one form of justice for All of the People. Here is what it boils down to:

1) The SCOTUS has put a 'viability test' on when an abortion may be performed,
2) What does 'viability' measure? It measures the ability to be sustained outside of the mother or host.
3) What happens when an Individual is outside the mother or host and sustainable? They are 'born'.
4) Being born of Citizens of the United States within a State of the United States or within limits set externally by Congress for such things under its Immigration and Naturalization powers makes one a Citizen.
Short, sweet and to the point: viability is a measure of Citizenship.

Yes, very reductio ad absurdum and all of that, but it does point out the thing about working with imperfect law: one can use its imperfection to achieve things that locking horns forevermore will not do. And in this extremely imperfect ruling the SCOTUS has now set up a 'two tier' system upon fetuses based on positional sustainability outside the mother or host. If a fetus is born prematurely, it gets full Citizenship Rights and coverage. At that exact same gestation point for another fetus going through normal gestation that is NOT the case. Say, that just can't be right, can it? Imperfect law, imperfect ruling leading to a non-Due Process procedure for Equal Protection. Pure idiocy, when you come right down to it. If a 'viability' test is put in place then the requirement, since it is viability to become a Citizen is being measured, then ALL such fetuses at that same point in gestation should get Equal Coverage and Due Process under the Law.

Painful, isn't it?

Enacting State-based legislation on that would *then* require *proof* that a fetus was not in the viability stage and appropriate developmental buffer zone to afford protections to unequal development due to circumstances beyond control of mother or fetus. Under this regime one can, indeed, get an abortion, but only with *proof* that the fetus was not in the gestational viability period. What that then requires is *record keeping* of sexual activity! Yes, more Red Tape! Sworn affidavits, medical exam and post-abortion exam to determine status would then be *required* so that anyone that LIES about their history in this regard can be prosecuted for murder. On the other side society, at that point in time, must afford full minor citizenship rights to such children who are gestating normally and ensure that these new Citizens are properly tracked and accounted for until their full 'birth date' or emergence from the mother or host. This infringes upon no existing set of Rights and applies responsibility to sexual activity because of its paramount importance to Citizenship. And various doctors can be appointed by the State to perform dual exams upon an individual that did NOT keep such records, and then they would attest to gestational period and abortion made available for the non-viable fetus.

This provides full rights to the unborn at the point of viability. Anything *else* then gets one looking at 'when does life begin' which really isn't a question society is set up to deal with. What society *is* set up to deal with is when an individual becomes a Citizen, so using that is not only perfectly reasonable, but then sets new standards of conduct and accountability for sexually mature individuals. That knife cuts across *both sides* of the debate as it is neutral to the debate and looks to uphold society and *not* find some sort of perfect solution. Totalitarian governments are very good at perfect solutions and their eponymous 'Final Solution'. Really, if life 'begins at conception' then it is not the abortion clinics that are mass murder facilities but In Vitro Fertilization clinics that have large numbers of fertilized eggs from generally infertile couples that need to destroy such after a period of time as they become non-viable for *anything* after a couple of years in the deep freeze. Tens if not hundreds of thousands of fertilized eggs are destroyed via that route and yet I see very little protesting around those places for doing so. Somehow that 'perfect' viewpoint needs to be adjusted to the actual, real world of a common society held by the overwhelming majority of Citizens.

What can be done, however, is to find better ways to sustain premature infants, identify better ways to identify developmental stages of gestating fetuses, and afford a bit better help to expectant mothers or hosts so as to get children that are better cared for, generally healthy and, perhaps, have some early intervention for treatment of genetic illnesses and deformities. If all the money that had been funneled into this glacially locked 'debate' had been put to something *useful* for the commonly held public society, then we might have fewer premature births, a better understanding of genetic disease and pre-born deformities and actually hold life to be a bit more sacred than we do now as an entire society.

So with that it is now time to anger other vast swaths of the Public!

To do *that* I will look at this idea of the Nation State as a container for internal systems, for its own people, and its external accountability to other Nation States via diplomacy and warfare. With this the Left and the Right serve as equally good targets in their strange views on Human Rights, Human Liberty, and the Sovereignty of the Nation State. Of course these are all imperfect constructs made and developed by the hand of man, but they work better than anything else that has ever been put forth. So it is time for the wild joyride of giving equal affront to all sorts of strange sensibilities so that we can come to understand what it means to *have* a Nation State. And here there are, indeed, limits on the Nation State both in time and in spacial coordinates that are referenced to the center of mass of Rock 3 from the Star Sol, named Earth by its more or less sentient inhabitants. As I looked at this before in Where exactly are your rights?, this entire Nation State limits concept does have actual hard and fast limits upon it in the physical way, not the grandiose forms that so many try to put this in.

Simply put the territorial limits, with more or less agreed-upon extensions for 'territorial waters' and Extra-Territorial Enclaves (aka. Embassies) use those outline limits and then extend those downwards towards the center of mass of the planet. Thus these planes extend upward in radiating fashion until they hit the surface and then extend out to the limits of the atmosphere where they end. Nation States have: top, bottom and sides and are a 'container'. While these are mental constructs, they are also the agreed-upon constructs that serve as limitation boundaries for Peoples and are agreed by their governments as actual things to be respected. This sort of thing has been going on for awhile, but got codified a bit better after the 30 years war ended in 1648 and the Peace of Westphalia established the Nation State as separate entity from the Roman Catholic Church. The religious implications of that I went over on Keeping faith so that faith may be kept, but the upshot of *that* is that Nations may have National religious outlook but *must* afford Individuals the Right to freedom of worship of their religion of choice. This is what I would term: A Conservative Value Engendered By The Judeo-Christian Ethos. It shortens down to: keep your nosy Government out of my religious outlook. I particularly like that as it does, indeed, create Freedom and Liberty, while all these other splendid ideas for what a Nation should do with respect to religion do not.

With that splendid concept fought over with millions dead to it, developed the bloody history of Nation States which were incrementally less bad than the religious wars before them. As Nations began to realize that they couldn't look to the Church for what to do in the affairs of their Nation, particularly if the leadership changed religious affiliation, the movement of politics to a lower level happened. Instead of the Pontiff and Cardinals and Archbishops and such, it was all put on Emperors, Kings, Princes, Dukes and the such like to figure it out for themselves. File this under in the drawer labeled: No Good Deed Goes Unpunished. These various secular authorities were soon learning the ropes and instigating more hatred that would now be based on National outlook and the People in their Nation and *not* upon religion, by and large, although there are folks trying to drag the whole kit 'n caboodle back to the pre-17th century and get those lovely 20% death tolls of then on a global basis. By the efforts of 'Good Christian Leaders' who were often none of those things, this idea of 'Diplomacy' and 'Treaties' evolved to fit the Nation State framework in which Nations did this strange thing of *not* going to a religious or clerical authority to hand down edicts on Nations, but held each other accountable as Nations directly! Soon mere squabbles that an ex-communication or three could have handled and started up a long lasting religious war that would go on for decades now boiled down to an immediate conflict that might just last mere years and see an exchange in provinces or movement of border or some such.

This is known as: Progress.

With that the territorial limits of Nation States were slowly brought into being and they *evolved* as wars changed things, Peoples moved around and mere ethnic conflicts rose to that of National status. And some of those did, in actuality, come to some settlement, while others have festered on for more than a few centuries and some date back 6,000 years or so, particularly in Asia. Ask Koreans of their opinion of Chinese, Chinese their opinion of Vietnamese and then go in reverse order and you will get families citing oral and written history going back that far to show who was right and who was wrong and why the squabbles continue unabated along with hard feelings. Makes the folks in the Balkans 'Johnny-come-latelies' in this sort of thing, really. While parts of Africa, particularly in the Ethiopia region, also have similar long-lasting ethnic outlook and strife. By offering order and regularity to such squabbles, Nation States afforded separateness of governance and outlook which would entrench some of these things and dislodge others. This arrangement was extended via Treaty to include things that Nations held each other accountable for on the High Seas, which never stopped those that disagreed with them. Still doesn't as that is not possible in the container system of Nation States.

What is important, however, is that *inside* the Nation State government type was no longer dependent upon outside forces, by and large. Peoples inside Nations had separate outlook from their neighbors and could institute any sort of government they could put up with. Often that was Despotic, Tyrannical, Authoritarian, or Strongman Rule. Still they were *our* despots, not *yours* and *yours* were far worse than *ours*. Those Nations that did *not* provide freedom of religious worship to its People, however, were seen as truly Barbaric. But you can't do much about that to make them hold to being a Nation State, externally, while internal to the Nation State system the entire idea of 'Nation' started to change. Individuals within Nations came to the realization that no matter who the Leader was, it was the common folks who got the dirty end of the stick and that needed to change. In fits and starts the pry bar of lesser authorities with internal power began to wedge some openings into what was and was not acceptable in the way of internal rule and order. In most of southern Europe this would take awhile, but in the northern climes this would leapfrog all over the place because of their Peoples.

Although Greece is pointed to as the sole birthplace of democracy, the folks way up north had their own kind that was not derived from Greek outlook and principles. Theirs was more based on the community level having Leaders that do this thing known as 'lead' and are 'held accountable' for their leading. Many of the Kings of those northern Nations understood, often fatally, that their power did *not* extend beyond the consent of the governed. The basis for Leading was by common assent and when that got lost, so did one's power if not one's life. This was a direct 'clash of civilizations' that grew out of the end of the Roman Empire and Nordic folks, generically, going all over the place in search of trade and, when folks didn't want to trade, simply taking what they wanted from those pesky foreigners. Back home, however, the ruling of the Thing for the village and then on upwards to the larger Thing for what would be Nations, led towards accountable internal rule. One of the worst punishments was not immediate death, nor the grisly things they did to foreigners, but was simply to expel an individual and let them know there was a price on their head *inside* town and later Nation. The price was on the head, not the rest of the body.

This set of ideas would suffuse outwards into the Germanies, British Isles, Northern France and other places less hospitable to chilly climates. In England, generically, and the Scots and Irish this would cross with standard clan based laws and meld into a form of Common Law to which All are held accountable. While still ruled upon locally, the idea passed upwards into the Nobility that extending voice to the peasantry was necessary as revolts were often putting Nobles lives at danger. That basic trust that the Leader would look out for the safety of the People and be held accountable to them mixed with the southerly forms of democracy to amalgamate into something new: democracy with Common Law holding All accountable. This developed within the framework concept of Nation States to become modern democracy in its varied forms we now see today. Unlike religious totalitarian concepts of warfare, National warfare allowed for ideas to shift and be tested upon unwilling subjects who would then either change and accept them or revolt against them. Warfare and Peoples shifting slowly over time set up Nation States to test out new ideas of government of which one was democracy. And the only place that democracy can take place and still *have* accountability by accepted National governments is within the Nation State itself. Outside placement of rule has often been seen as Imperialistic, Tyrannical and Overbearing for all the fact it opens up new avenues of insight. Larger organizations than local Nation State governments have proven not to work and have been discarded as Authoritarian and Tyrannical in outlook and scope as there is no accountability process to keep it in check. If you can't lawfully place a price on someone's head for breaking the Commonality of Law, then you have rule of the Tyrant not of the Law.

Sacrosanct to National rule is National Sovereignty in which the Nation acts as Sovereign actor for the Peoples of the Nation. This, too, is a check against unaccountable rule and has often led to warfare or revolutions when the Sovereignty is broken either externally or internally. The basis of accountability of Nations to each other is the direct correspondent of the accountability of Leaders to the People and their Law. This is a prime area for concern as many Individuals no longer wish to recognize the Sovereignty of Nation States and, thusly, do not realize that this system offers both protection and accountability that higher forms of governance do not have. The latest going over was in International lawlessness begins at home with you, which slowly boils down from the equivalence of accountability of Treaties all the way to that of agreements between Individuals as friends. The way the People of the United States set out to ensure that this Sovereignty was not abused nor diluted, was to make accountable government inside the Union at the Federal level, through checks and balances, and then to put superior checks and balances out to the States and the People to recall those that did not act in accordance with the wishes of the People. Final and absolute authority on all things rests with the Will of the People, and government may not choose to give powers granted to them to any other body or institution. Federal government was made as the Highest Accountable Power in the Nation and there are None higher than that. And as friends keep and abide by agreements with other friends, so it is expected that very same thing to happen between Our Government and that of other Nations. And when friends let us down we like to know *why* and that is part and parcel of International Relations and Reciprocity between Nation States: explain why agreements are violated and be held accountable to their activities.

Up to the era of WWI this was the commonly acknowledged and understood view of where Rights were afforded (within Nations), what could be afforded for foreigners (by Treaty and internal outlook), and what was necessary to keep the system going (abide by Treaties and be held accountable for actions that violated them). And even in later times, all concepts of Universal Human Rights are stated and understood to adhere to just this conception with *no* higher authority power than the Nation State. And so the crux of those wishing to support an ideal of 'Universal Human Rights' come smack dab into the fact that no power will enforce such rights nor be held accountable to People. That is because the Rights are *not* handed down from Government but are a realization by Individuals that they are Free. That is what the United States is based upon and the statements for that Universality is a recognition that Peoples must find it within themselves to adhere to themselves as Free People and make Government accountable to them. This is horrifically at odds with those who want to destroy Nation States using the Universality of Human Rights as a reason to dis-establish the Nation State and the framework of Nation States.

In 1917 the President of the United States did *not* ask for Declaration of War against all those Powers arrayed against the Allies, but was particular and choosy in that. Even though it is common to treat Allied Nations that have gone to War as one entity for being held accountable, President Wilson did not do that much to the vexation of Congress and the Allies. Many in Congress, including ex-President Teddy Roosevelt, had pleaded with Wilson to ask for full Declaration of the Powers that were arrayed to Germany. Instead a different view on warfare was put forth by the President who ran on an Isolationist platform. The warnings by Congress, including ex-President Roosevelt were not heeded: that by not taking full part in the War the US would be unable to affect the Peace outcome. The idea of what the Union was, in that era, was being radically altered from 1909-19 and the decision by President Wilson to not ask for War against the Ottoman Empire was one that would change the character of outlook by the United States on Foreign Policy and on its outlook on what Freedom and Liberty *are*. That policy was two-fold and each of those have morphed over time into undemocratic outlooks that threaten the survival of the Nation State and democracy. The first idea is that Trade trumped Warfare and that Trade would change the Middle East for the better. The second was that International Institutions could provide a pathway to Peace between Nations. President Wilson's firmer outlook on ethnically aligning Nation States in the Middle East to their Peoples was not taken seriously as the US had not been a full partner in the War and the fully victorious powers did not set much of a place at the adult table for partners that did not act like responsible adults. From these three things there would be hell to pay in the ensuing decades.

Previously I have gone over these forms in distributed articles as they engender three major outlooks derived from these ideals of an Isolationist President. The easiest is Transnational Progressivism, which is the malignant outgrowth of international ideals gone awry with Tyrants and Despots getting equal say at international meetings to that of democracies. I went over it as part of the stumbling blocks in the Peace in the Middle East - The Checklist article, and further reading on by John Fonte on the subject can be found here and here. The basic outline of Transnational Progressivism have been fairly outlined and are as follows:
Groups are what matter, not people. You are "Black" or "Christian" or "Mexican" or "Afghan" or "Sunni", you are not yourself. You also don't get to choose your group; it's inherent in what you were when you were born. Someone else will categorize you into your group, and you will become a number, a body to count to decide how important that group is. And your group won't change during your lifetime.

The goal of fairness is equality of result, not equality of opportunity. It isn't important to let individuals fulfill their potential and express their dreams, what's important is to make groups have power and representation in all things proportional to their numbers in the population. Fairness is for groups, not for individuals. The ideally fair system is based on quotas, not on merit, because that permits proper precise allocation of results.

Being a victim is politically significant. It's not merely a plea for help or something to be pitied; it's actually a status that grants extra political power. "Victimhood" isn't a cult, it's a valid political evaluation. Groups which are victims should be granted disproportionately more influence and representation, at the expense of the historic "dominant" culture.

Assimilation is evil. Immigrants must remain what they were before they arrived here, and should be treated that way. Our system must adapt to them, rather than expecting them to adapt to us (even if they want to). The migration of people across national borders is a way to ultimately erase the significance of those borders by diluting national identity in the destination country.

An ideal democracy is a coalition where political power is allocated among groups in proportion to their numbers. It has nothing to do with voting or with individual citizens expressing opinions, and in fact it doesn't require elections at all. A "winner take all" system, or one ruled by a majority, is profoundly repugnant because it disenfranchise minority groups of all kinds and deprives them of their proper share of power.

National identity is evil. We should try to think of ourselves as citizens of the world, not as citizens of the nations in which we live, and we should try to minimize the effects of national interests, especially our own if we live in powerful nations.
These are the fundamental points of the world view of Transnational Progressivism and they formulate a top-down, elite ruled and anti-democratic viewpoint on the world. The goal is to remove the Nation State as a separate identifier and discriminator and remove Sovereignty from Nations and invest it in a Higher Authority above Nations. This is a direct descendant of President Wilson's ideas for a League of Nations and UN, but taken to the point where the actual internal governance type of a Nation no longer matters and power derives from governmental authority and not from the People. This is turning the Declaration of Independence and the U. S. Constitution on their heads if not scrapping them entirely as governing concepts amongst the affairs of mankind. Some of these derive from International Socialism and Communism, like the equality of result in all things, while many are wholly made up of a 'One World' ideal that has no basis in outlook of governments. Through the use of group-affiliation, the power of Individuals is *removed* as a concept in which power derives from the governed. By seeking to make international institutions as a legitimate way to handle Nation to Nation problems, the Wilsonian ideal has slowly morphed to those purporting that it is the ONLY way for legitimacy of handling problems and that Reciprocity and Accountability of Nation TO Nation no longer applies.

One of the most destructive manifestations of this has been the 'Sanctuary' movements of cities and municipalities actually no longer adhering to the Laws of the Land in the US and not enforcing the commonality of that law. In my article on this, Sanctuary Cities and Secession from the Union, I point out that each of the major powers function Articles of the Constitution are being broken by these municipalities and that in previous generations this was known as: secession. San Francisco has come the closest to actually stating this via its elected officials, and the point being driven home is that there is no respect for the commonality of law nor adherence to it nor to respecting the Sovereignty of the Nation and its agreed upon structure in the Constitution. Citing the 'Universal Rights' concept does no good whatsoever, as I examined in the framework of Treaties between Nations in Terrorist breaking with civilization. Terrorism is a case on this, but they have also broken the general 'Universal Human Rights' concept by not adhering to its Nation State basis and that is exactly what individuals entering the Nation illegally are doing. Those that give aid and succor and jobs to such are eroding the Union and working against the foundations of Due Process of Law. In the end the Rights problem is not in illegals getting rights but in the Rights of the Citizens to have a Sovereign Nation be lost and the Nation right along with it.

Transnational Terrorists are a second outgrowth of the Wilsonian misaligned views, and this comes from the negative of not having more ethnically aligned States in the Middle East post-WWI and the utilization of Transnational Progressivist ideology in words, but with a view towards a different ruling Elite. They are further supported by the Transnational Capitalists, described later, and the abundance of unaccountable weapons for trade and sale globally at cheap cost. The view of al Qaeda in its doctrinal outlook is to exploit the Transnational weakening of the Nation State to start breaking Nation States down with warfare and civil unrest. Their document is The Management of Savagery, which I give overview of here. Lee Harris previously gave insight to al Qaeda's Fantasy Ideology which, in outlook if not in form, drives many terrorist groups globally not just the Islamic Radicalist types.

The generalized outlook is to assert Islam as an overarching view and utilize ethnic and other differences within Nations so as to fracture Nations and allow for those parts more aligned to al Qaeda to be subverted. Once done the exploited people and their territory serve as a basis for enlarged attacks outwards, spreading religion and ideology with an aim towards a Global Islamic State. While there are many fantastical views within that outlook, and it has sustainability problems, what it does do is cause further terror and death that spreads each time it is not confronted. While being a tiny minority within Islam, this ideology serves as a basis for subverting much of the rest of Islam and installing Dictatorship over those areas that succumb to it. That is the direct and stated goal of al Qaeda: use ethnic tensions to empower specific groups, subvert those groups when they win, expand attacks against Nation States and continue this process until all Nation States have given up or been so heavily fractured that they can no longer resist the forces of Islam becoming united under al Qaeda. Iran is also looking to do something very similar to this, and the disagreements are more along the line of final Leadership basis and Religious control. Communists and Capitalists that utilize terrorism are just as amenable to that basic formula, although offering different Totalitarian end States.

The third part of this is the Transnational Capitalist. Here John Fonte has offered this article: American Conservativism Meets Globalization: The Challenges from the Transnational Left and Transnational Right. In that he looks at the destructive views of Transnationalism utilized by Capitalists to seek out illegal aliens for labor. With this he gives view on three main areas: "(1) global migration or immigration, (2) global trade, and (3) regionalization, specifically North American integration". I find it interesting that he reiterates the concept that is most misaligned in his look at the McCain-Kennedy amnesty bill from last year and the support it garnered from the Wall Street Journal, which he quotes from as follows:
"Our own view is that a philosophy of 'free markets and free people' includes flexible labor markets. At a fundamental level, this is a matter of freedom and human dignity. These migrants are freely contracting their labor, which is a basic human right."
This is very close to what so many on the Capitalist Right have been purporting for years if not decades at this point although they go a bit beyond that to purport that 'free markets make people free'. He then goes on to rightly point out that contracting between Nations *must* use the Nation to Nation channels of established Treaty for the migration of individuals. My article on The 20% victory is something called defeat, looks into this on both sides of the political spectrum which has only two sides, a very strange idea for a 'spectrum', and point out that Man is not an 'economical unit' but a Human Being. As such the Rights of Man rely upon the enforceable framework of laws to ensure those rights. The #1 most basic *Right* is to associate in discriminatory ways so as to find people compatible with you. When you get a large number of them you form together to make something called: A Nation. By violating the Sovereignty of that Nation those within it have their Individuality diminished and the ability of that Nation to ensure Rights broken. Jeffersonians should look to the Declaration on that as the ability to gather together and form Nation is paramount to being a People even *before* religion. The ability to say who you will and will not associate with and have that respected is a fundamental basis for ANY Nation State. With this 'Right to Contract' deal International Law is then made by foreigners with companies and no longer by the Sovereign Nations involved. That means immigration policy is left up to Tyson's Food, Wal Mart, and various farmers using Federal funds to grow crops and then hire illegals to pick them. Who chose THEM to be the ones setting immigration policy for the Nation?

Transnational Capitalists also seek regulation of trade between Nations via unaccountable international bodies, such as the World Trade Organization (WTO). The WTO, however, is not limited to Nation States to hear complaints about Nations and is open to a wide gamut of Non-Governmental Organizations, many of them on the environmental and Progressivist side of things, working to further destabilize the legitimacy of Nation to Nation reciprocity without interference from non-Nation State actors. It is this gamut of 'social activism', 'environmental activism' and non-accountable ruling body attached to the WTO that makes it dangerous to National outlook on what is and is not acceptable or accountable trade between Nations. This is a Power only granted to the U. S. Congress by its People and only amenable to Treaties which are ruled upon by the Supreme Court. Those are the actual functions of those Federal powers and may not be delegated nor signed over to any other organization as they are a grant of Power from the People, not held by Government. Trade, in particular, is something that has been a place where Congress has its most power and the infringement of the regularization of Foreign Trade via Treaty is amenable only to ruling status in the U. S., not to a Foreign or Transnational hearing or court system.

With Transnationalism, as seen with the Progressivists, comes the de-linking of National Sovereignty from the People of a Nation. The Capitalist side also is seeking this via the system of Regionalization to break down border barriers and reduce the Sovereignty of Nations particularly in North America. Here the Security and Prosperity Partnership for North America is cited by Mr. Fonte as troublesome in the extreme as its objectives are those to remove oversight of the movement of individuals across borders, change all security and customs regulations to one single set stretching from Mexico to Canada, 'formalize' the transnational labor force, and create institutions to "promote North American integration". Sounds very Leftist, and yet the current Administration has sent Cabinet level officers to this set of meetings: Condoleezza Rice, Carlos Gutierrez, Michael Chertoff. These meetings established the North American Competitiveness Council which is overseen *not* by a government body but the US Chamber of Commerce. Here, again, who elected the US Chamber of Commerce to set trade, immigration, naturalization and foreign policy for the Union in North America?

Finally this Transnational Capitalism, like its Progressivist counterparts, seeks to remove assimilation as the standard for Immigration and, indeed, remove any especial affinity for the Nation State by its People. The 'harmonizing' process is to change the cultures of all three Nations into one, single culture. Indeed, individuals who will *not* forswear their Mexican Citizenship are finding home inside America and even being elected to positions in government. This is something that is directly contrary to the Oath taken by an individual to become a Citizen and calls into question the allegiance and direction of such Individuals who have a goal of diluting culture and National Sovereignty as something that is openly stated. And that is, at bedrock, what makes a Nation State separate and different: the primary right of individuals to come together and form association that excludes others in the conception of Nation State. The US, Canada and Mexico are three different cultures at basis, with different histories and outlook, and yet the Transnational Capitalists wish to 'harmonize' culture so that there is no distinction IN culture in North America. That is a blatant attempt to remove that which makes the Nations separate and accountable entities and is a removal of special and separate histories of People to have and hold as their own.

Transnationalism is known by its older name, where the populace serves an Elite ruling class, and it does not matter if that class be Progressivist, Terrorist or Capitalist, the name remains just the same: Empire.

The Transnational ideology was born in the Middle East in 1917.

And the repercussions of it on Freedom and Liberty for all of Humanity now are felt with the cold breath of Empire wanting to rule over Mankind and not seek the consent of the Governed. No Empire ever formed has ruled with consent of the Governed and has always limited the rights of the population to what the ruling power thought it should be. This long and hard struggle to cooperative distinctiveness is to enrich all of mankind and respect differences so that we may have a plethora of outlooks to handle the future. It is not a perfect world that is made from that, but one that can be made 'more perfect' over time.

Do you remember earlier my outlook on other things, like abortion and such? How would you feel if you had no say in that as the 'harmonization process' would reflect that of how some committee viewed 'North American' ideal? How about school standards? Health care? Gun ownership? Drug use? Your ability to have someone local you can elect to a school board, instead of having a board appointed by an oversight body? How about your religion? Your freedom of speech? These are the things that need to be 'harmonized' across North America. And much, much more.

Transnationalism seeks utter perfection by removing what makes Peoples and Nations different and special.

And only Tyranny achieves that as a government type as it is perfectible.